Tuft proposes a shift away from a more feminist perspective to a more egocentric and humanist perspective, since he argues that current readers do not quite realize the severity of the situation when a wife chooses to deny her duties to her husband and children in favor of her duties to herself. Marcus is using his assertiveness as a way to instill shame and guilt into the heart of his estranged wife. Curley's wife is described in the first appearance she makes: "She had full, rouged lips and wide-spread eyes, heavily made up. Life choices are definitely influenced by money, especially in a world where money is more necessary to life than oxygen. Or perhaps she is a narcissist and is blind to it. WebIn Harry Trumans Dear Bess Letters, he conversed with his wife about his political decisions to a great extent. His proposal for her to come back to his home and their society is very strict and restrictive of her own personal will. Of course most, if not all, of the problems within the foils of the play were created by or influenced by the fact that the early 20th century was ruled by the free market. I cannot believe the arrogance he has when he expects her to return to him. Also she does not see the real reason why Dr. Rank is around because reality is he really and trully in love her her and is willing to treat like a women and not an enslave on finacially reasons. The tone of Marcuss letter to his wife is very strict and bitter. The Marxist approach to "A Doll's House" provides a different way of examining this situation than I could have thought. Describe the tone of Marcus' letter to his wife. Helmer is willing now to do anything his wife wants as long as she stays with family. q7Ng?vz`XC %e#$`VDnn8I88Qi?zJtz]ftY8GsLD4X(B9$PbNvZ He demands to know her whereabouts and the exact time and date of her return to him. Marcus seems to be pinpointing most of the blame on his wife in the letter. While Marcus makes it apparnet that the wife has obligations to their husbands, that they need to do what the husband says.- I dont think either of them takes responsibility for the seperation, in fact Trovold makes accusations of Nora being sick, like mentally ill. These are just two different ways for each person to deal with the break up and every person is different. His tone is very indifferent in the letter; he tells her "Don't travel unprepared; if you need money, ask your father." Whether it be a wife trying to hide her credit card debt from her husband, to a mother leaving her family to reinvent herself. Yet I read, and read again your charming letters, and they serve me, in some faint degree as a substitute for the company and conversation of the writer. [3] His longing for her during their war-enforced separation led him to write that he wanted to see her think. It is interesting to note that Marcus and Ulrike are Jewish and Torvald and Nora are Christian. And that was clearly stated by her slamming the door and walking out. Almost slave like relationship. I believe that she is a woman who has lived in a home, contained by her husband and living in the rules of her society, which is, doing what your husband and nothing else. WebThe colonel tried to shoot him down before he left the plantation and promised to shoot him the next time he saw him. This is from Letter from a Husband to his Wife Arts & Thus points of preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love and Exhibitionistic requires constant attention and admiration and lack of empathy: inability to recognize how others feel resembles some of Nora characteristics. He says she is stubborn, has false ambitions, and unreasonable. Write a news story; write a poem; write an opinion piece. Tufts wants the readers to realize that Nora is not illustrating any form of solidarity towards others. These relationships are not like the marriages we are use to seeing, they are more like transactions and mergers, but as cities and industry grew in the 19th century the desire to contribute to society might have prompted these women [ Nora and Ulrike] to self discovery. Marcus tone in this letter was arrogant, controlling and outlandish to the point where I wouldnt come back home to him. Tuft's purpose in arguing that Nora be seen as narcissistic because Nora character cannot stand on her own. That, of course, is far from the truth. For that reason her last deed was viewed by her husband as insane rather than a strong, protest statement against the norm of the time.Therefore, Tuft compares Nora's character to Oedipus who also repressed the fact that he was the one who murdered the king/his father and married the queen/his own mother till it could no longer be hidden. (by the way, tinderxheart06 is actually laura but i can't figure out how to make my username my real namean dnot my screen name). They are both similar because both of these men expect their wives to live day to day by their rules. This, I find, is actually quite the contrary. To some it didnt. If we look at the criteria for the narcissitic personality, Nora has exhibited them all throughout the play. The husband's words paint an unwillingness to change what is worthy of change and a state of ignorant immaturity. I beleive that Helmer would have wrote a letter to Nora demanding that he be given the chance to meet her challenge to get to know who she is and to be the man that she invisioned him to be. When she decided to leave her life behind and make a new one for herself, it was on the hope of fulfilling the duties to herself, consequently, enforcing a lack of empathy towards her family. Their worlds had gotten bigger and their lives remained small.What do think about an industrial revolution hysteria? When Marcus's wife left him I believe he may have been angry but moreover he was disappointed, disappointed that his love and wife of many years decided to walk out on him and their children. Sure there were things that led up to her leaving, but nothing that would cause that much of a reaction. In fact, he doesn't even understand why she would leave, and thinks it isn't sensible. Marcus' letter to his wife is the complete opposite of Ibsen's play. In retrospect, Nora knew deep down for a while that she was not her own person, she was who her husband wanted her to be as a wife, and covered these feelings with treats and nice things until she finally was strong enough to come out about these concerns and realizes what is really important in life; herself. My personal belongings will all be sent to you. This is the ONLY time the husband admits responsibility for the split of their relationship. She told Ms. Linde stories, bragging about what she had. That seems to be the easy case for Nora but at the end she realized her economic status did not matter or the price was just too high. Marcus is much more in control than Torvald was. You win some and you lose some. I feel that, at the beginning of the letter, Marcus does realize that it was because of his actions that Ulrike left. What Nora is really portraying, in her actions, is a concern for her own problems and a disregard for her responsibilities. Abigail and John Adams's letters to each other show a rare marriage of equals, historians say. Which places her as a narcissistic, but truly she was not. Marcus was determined to pass from defense to offense and to an expansionist redrawing of Romes northern boundaries. With all that he is really not taking any blame at all and just putting it all on her. The two engage in frequent flirting and they seem to love each other on the outside. Marcus focuses on the problems of his wife, instead of his own faults. He takes a stand is telling his wife either she does what he wants and fulfills her wifely duties like she should or she'll be alone with no money, no husband, and no kids, which at those times meant she had NOTHING at all and that was the worst case scenario for anyone. I wonder if Nora thinks about all that while being so into herself with this duties to self. i do not feel this makes her narcissistic. I agree. She flirted shamefully with Dr. Rank, with no intention of ever showing him any real interest. The only one could be that Torvald was harsh to Nora saying she was a child and he would have to take care of her. Maybe Nora did not want to have children or did not have a bond with them. When she left, he was left feeling guilty and responsible. Does he accept any responsibility for their separation? children. When Dr. Rank informs Nora of his expectation to die and the worst of his suffering to begin, she first berates him for being "completely unreasonable" (1533 Norton Anthology) and then goes as far as putting her hands over her ears to ignoring him. Both families are well off and well known. Torvald and Nora are more loving towards one another and address each other in more playful ways. It amazes me that you could be so unfeeling as to send me your wedding picture. Nora's realization of the importance her inner need over materialistic wants unfortunately was confronted a bit too late. The husband is making statement such as if she comes back it will be the "correct" thing to do. He explains that he wants everything a certain way, and if his wife cant follow this than it is her fault that they are separated. The ending to the play speaks wonders to Noras narcissistic character. His determination seemed to be winning success when, in 180, he died at his military headquarters, having just had She makes him do her will by playing a game of submission. Marcus's letter to his wife i found was very harsh towards his wife. It makes us ask the question can we truly ever achieve total freedom on this earth. It's business. Marcus's letter reminded me of someone who writes something to a person that left them, blaming everything on that person. I would have sent it back. It seems that Marcus does not take much responsibility for their separation. The truthfulness of that statement is debatable however instead of stating it once if at all, Nora repeats it as if her decisions had the power of God to determine life and death. Enter Macbeth's Wife, alone: As the scene opens, Lady Macbeth is reading a letter from her husband. Yet, when things do not go the way she wants them to, she packs up and leaves her family behind. She is rather concerned with her appearance, social, and economic status. Also, Torvald seems to care more than Marcus on whether his wife returns home or not. WebDescribe the tone in which the narrators father dismissed his wifes warnings every single time. He is very controlling. Instead, words that describe tone focus on how the person's disposition or mood is conveyed. They both, also, portray a sense of entitlement and superiority over their wives with regards to both the ways in which they refer to their wives, and their sets of expectations. That can be expected of anyone in any marriage when they first encounter a situation of the context in which they did. It's almost as if he is saying, "hey, I am doing my part, you agreed to do your part and you haven't. But apparently this is not enough and when he discovers a lie on her part and suspects that this is only the tip of the iceberg she leaves him and the kids slamming the door behind her. I agree with what almost everyone else has said about the similarities and differences between Torvald Helmer and Marcus. BORING. However, Marcus is being harsh and lets his wife know he will be the one in charge and no buts should be heard. I believe that Tufts purpose of saying that Nora is narcissistic is because at first when people read/see the play they make Nora out to be a victim but it's not until you really think it through and see all the angels that you see how selfish she really is, and not the victim people first see. :p*YGx)rCZmW*gb&uD#$k7@@$?%1$,'CQ That I can say is true because Nora did not have a job of her own other than tendingto the house and basically spending Torvald's money. Both men dominate over their wives and both men want their wives to come back, but the reader/watcher can see that Torvald truly does care for Nora, while it just seems to me that Marcus only has a wife for the purpose of having someone to serve him. He, quite honestly, needs her and is using her "responsibilities and duties as a mother" to lure her back in to his arms. You must treat them like him, instead of comprising a list of demands your wife will obey. Nora is simply selfish. 7Qr-Ke>`88esThx}2\$ Kt~~@oP(GAa%8h/heIs$ That is what i don't understand these women i understand want to leave their husbands because they feel trapped but you also made the choice of having children, atleast take them. I think another major difference is just the relationship itself, I mean from what I read in this letter there is no love between Marcus and his wife it's all just duty to one another and the children. Marcus' letter displayed no expression of love toward his wife. WebBrowning was inspired to mould the character of the Duke on the historical personality of Alfonso II, fifth Duke of Ferrara of the Italian Renaissance whose first wife Lucrezia di Cosimo de Medici died on suspicious grounds. << /Length 5 0 R /Filter /FlateDecode >> WebThe Project Gutenberg EBook of The Principles of Psychology, Volume 1 (of 2), by William James This eBook is for the use of anyone anywhere in the United States and most other par The opposite of narcissism would be unselfishness or my altruism and the only person who may fall into that category is Anne-Marie, the servant, so was she the happiest? Due to the traditional thought that women at the time were to obey the husbands was a sign of being victims but in this case and in many others women might use that as a way to get what they want, in this case Nora playing the role of being happy got her money from her husband and since he was promoted that meant the world for her. Van also helps give Marcus many of the great ideas that make his rebellion succesful. But Marcus decided to blame his wife for his acting like what Eve did to Adam. Tufts purpose for arguing that Nora was seen as Narcissistic because she waited out of the life she currently was living and wanted to become her own person. Nora is in a similar situation. Unlike him, at least Helmer was willing to treat Nora with more respect. There are a couple of similarities but then again some differences between this marriage and the one Nora and Torvald had. The difference between Helmer and Marcus is in Helmers case the control was not much emphasized as much as Marcus. Noras case she acted like it is her way or the highway. xSe[9A It is understandable that outsiders will comment on such a juicy and tragic event as their wives leaving. I think that a letter to Nora written by Helmer would be filled with persuasion, while being a little deceitful, would make a convincing argument as to why she should return home and probably flatter her a little. We can't live nor judge another person on what's correct or not, because what's correct for me, may not be correct for you.And the 19th century husband adds him, "May God enlight your heart and mind" Which is funny because in that era, woman remained uneducated and therefore unable to be enlightened. I believe Tuft's purpose and reasoning on why Nora is a narcissist is a true statement that can be proven by Nora's actions and comparing them to Tuft's list of narcissistic personality traits. His tone was very demanding and in some parts humor was used. She makes her life decisions knowing it will benefit her and make her happy. I am sure about it. In order for the play to remain a seminal piece of social commentary, Tuft argues that Nora should be seen as a narcissist thus adding more complexity to her character and to the dynamics of human relationships. You explore the feelings of a man desperate in the heat of loosing his job, and wife trying to hide the debt she has obtained from her husband. I do agree with the idea that Nora is narcissistic, in fact it hadn't even crossed my mind until I had read this article. The letter definitely speaks to the time period. 17. After reading A Nineteenth-Century Husband's Letter to His Wife, I could not help but to wonder if Marcus' letter to his wife would be a future version of the letter Helmer would write to Nora after she left. Both men seem to feel that they are the most powerful of each family. Pole; Insert et chemine; Cuisson; Ralisations; Contact. Just by reading his letter to her, it seems that Marcus holds all the power in the household. His letter is very similar to Helmer's words in that they were both "the man of the house" and made all the rules. When she spoke with Anne Marie about how she left her children to take care of her, she was just using that information to talk about herself, questioning what would happen if she left her children. He also mentions her "false ambitions", which shows to me that he believes that her hopes and dreams are ludicrous and unattainable because she is a woman. Woman was the wife and the mother and her husband was a provider for the family. Webmature wife pussy pics. And come to think about it even our days I am not sure how I would have understand a women who abandoned her 6 (!!!) Judging from this passage it seems that Marcus wants everything his way, and if that is not respected then his wife must pay the consequences. She wanted to test Torvald's love to her through the financial situation she stuck herself into because of her own love for him. I believe he takes almost full responsibility for his actions and for him being the reason she has left, not her fault. Not knowing the truth to this passage, Marcus would take his wife back under the condition that he would enslaved her as a wife. He wasnt taking responsibility for his problems and made it sound like his sins were type of retaliation to his wifes sin. Marcus basically explains to his wife that she has sinned first therefore the entire sin is on her and not him which is exactly like a dolls house. Nora is narcissistic. But on further thought I decided just to cut off your wife and send it back to you because I have nothing to do with her. We focus sometimes solely on the relationship between Torvald and Nora and forget about Rank and Mrs. Linde, who to me are huge characters and give us better insight into their society. He is attempting to inform her that hes fine without her, but the children and the house arent. @'uP!&Z`yvSXKQiCsTPWa{:}|J==[Sp You can say she needed the money for her husbands health or you can say she needed the money for Tolvads heath so he would not die and she could maintain her lifestyle? Divorce or separation meant ostracism; as Marcus writes, 'your husband, children, and Whether there was like real love between them they did in fact care about each other one or the other.Some similarities I saw which is the obvious one is the wives leave their husband and I think the reasons they had were similar as well. She believed that if she leaves she will escape all the problems she is having in her home. In the Victorian era, men were the ones with the jobs and it was the woman's job to find a man with a good reputation and a good salary so they can continue their family legacy and live comfortably. I don't think that the specific time made them act certain way. He is not so angry though, in fact, by the very end of the story, he seems to have a sudden hope enter him. Also he's giving her a set of rules in which she now has to live by in order for them to have a "happy and peaceful" life, because it's either his way or NO way at all.I believe that he takes very little responsibility in what has happened with their marriage. Both Marcus and Torvald concern themselves with the opinions of others. Furthermore if such decision making power she had then whey has she ignored Dr. Ranks condition? Mrs. Linde depends on Torvald to provide her with a job and she is able to get the job because she a widow. While she is proud of her accomplishments, they are few because she is able to have maids to tend to the things that she would otherwise have to do. Tuft feels that Nora is self absorbed because she leaves behind everything and thinks of herself first without thinking of any consequences on her departing. Marcus made these set of rules that Ulrike and everyone else in the house had to follow. Thats when he might call you love.4 pics 1 word, 6 letters starting with "r" and 5th letter is "l", picture of 2 adults hiking with 2 kids, lady holding an old phon; A guy calls you sweets means. I understand why some are saying that Nora is seen as narcissistic, however, I do not believe so. Audiences may not relate to 19th century socio-economic roles of women, but they can recognize narcissism when they see it. While portraying the image of a standard housewife of the time period, it seems that she is only concerned with the portrayal of this role. I feel he treated her more as an object then his wife or a human being. I never considered a Marxist approach when thinking about A Doll House, but it makes some good points and I can see it some many of the other characters perspectives not just Nora and Tolvald. The only one thing I would say deems Nora a narcissist above all else is her departure in the end. In order not to have to remind my wife every second She does often refer to her contributions to her family, the fact that she saved Torvald's life, but she is absent in her domestic roles. All of these displays can be related to life we see to this very day. When Nora was threatening to leave, Torvold didnt try to guilt her into staying. Torvald does admit his mistake and begs Nora to stay, while Marcus pretty much says, "I was partially wrong for the way I acted, but I don't really care whether to come back or not." Children don't deserve to be abandoned at all. Essentially, Lady Macbeth's response to her husband's letter illustrates her ambitious nature and wicked influence. Looks like Ulrike might have the best of both worldsShe may continue being the lady of the house and continue to "sin greatly" if she does it it "sensibly" and keep up appearances. Which is very childlike and well you did it first so ha. However, all this has to be done without making him look weak, vulnerable and helpless without her. Since her husband did not react to the way she wanted to when discovering Krogstad's letter, she reacted with shame and rage with how Torvald did not accept her actions. He is very verbally abusive. Contemporary audiences have different sensibilities than audiences from Ibsen's day. Tuft's purpose in arguing that Nora is a Narcissist is to prove a former point that she made. Nothing surprising for me here in this letter. A woman in upper-class society of the time had few choices A Marxist Approach to A Doll house show how a female role relies on a male. He sees no other reason as to why someone would leave in search for their own desires is they weren't content in only pleasing themselves. Nora needed to find herself as many people do. 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