Also his personality is nothing like Scott Alexander, some sock who is claiming to be LK on Facebook groups. The last person on Earth to protect the killer is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul. But my opinion isnt worth anything. Theres a connection that has been missed! Also, I was interested in whether you may be able to cover Harmony Montgomerys case? @Brad (AZ)- They act like Im sort of deranged psychopathic maniac whos a danger to women and children. Why didnt he pull up to his front door? The case for Mr. X is as solid as ever. We sent him off to dig into Mr. X. We now know who the FBI was looking into at first as a potential . Not sure if its Tennessee, or Texas? The dots connecting back to Iowa with the Tyson plant etc is great investigative work. He was one of the original witnesses who saw BG and gave a description. Published: Feb. 8, 2022 at 3:28 PM PST. . In addition, we may have more documents. Indiana authorities have released an affidavit that led to a 50-year-old married man being charged last month in connection with the 2017 Delphi murders, more than five years on from the double. Considering I often cannot view website news articles because of data protection laws? I very much think that a lot of the things that have puzzled me are now easily explained by Skip Jansen and Faceman's theory. This proves more of Leigh Kerrs testimony where he said BG sent photos or video to one of the girls phones after the crime. He uses all kinds of weird aliases. They had no history of behavior indicative of disregarding or disrespecting their parents/guardians by running off to a friends house just to show up later. This family member may maintain a different surname, by generation, but they are in fact, related! Instead of bashing us, why dont you ask why the cops are telling us this stuff? Isnt that logical. I must have the wrong name for your POI? Tony Kline is 65, 310 pounds! Many people from the Delphi area have gone over to went over to Evansdale to work on plants over there. ? thats tough luck usually)I agree with him that it was probably Logan that gave the cops details on Kirts to get out of the clink The cops say the killer made a mistakeI bet it was probably something left behind in one of Logans barns or shacks. Delphi police and the prosecutor's office said a public court hearing will be set to determine if the documents, including the affidavit in the case, will remain under seal. Only his hands, particularly focused on his bloody, sausage-like knuckles, could be seen with a caption that read after the brawl.. Also, a copy of the police scanner is available showing that Mr. Xs wife is supposed to be coming to the site to retrieve Mr. Xs truck. There was posing. Yes, this man is the prime suspect at the moment, but that doesnt mean a whole lot. Active litigation means that discovery is available. Why would they deliberately contradict their own beliefs? Thats why all the smoke and mirrors. I get the impression that LE thought that this officer was lying and were trying to offer him some protection. Thanks for all the info much appreciated. Deer kit on waist with five hunting knives. You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. The second sketch looks uncannily like DP. We think the girl knew she was pregnant. Possible Harley buddies (friends who ride Harley-Davidson motorcycles), as Mike is an avid Harley rider. Indiana Packers workboots go up to knee-high, and they are waterproof. Are you speculating? They say they want to preserve the integrity of the investigation. Why would they NOT want to look for those types of things in a child murder with likely sa involved? At least two prior marriages. 4) He was married many years prior. Etc. Feb. 13, 2017 Abby and Libby are dropped off at the Monon High Bridge Trail and are not there when family comes to pick them up. Thank you for all the work on the Delphi case. Unverified but Likely. There is so much junk, lies, theory, you name it, it is there. Pay at least $20 for lifetime membership to my PayPal. Is that also speculation? @lemon @scarlet - I could not agree more. I do not feel that this has anything to do with anything. The Delphi Murders - With Skip Jansen 3,712 views Streamed live on Mar 5, 2022 115 Dislike Share Save Kristin Behind The Crime Door 1.58K subscribers Join us as we discuss the case and KAK. There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012. Not important? Which one is responsible for the fake DP facebook account? Hes a greedy businessman with dollar signs in fluttering eyes that sound like clanging cash registers every time he blinks. Wouldnt 13-14 year old girls be past dolls and stuffed animals? 3) This man is a *heavy* smoker and a functioning alcoholic. Would be interesting to know if Garett Kirts was on Ron Logans property that day. Was Mr X aware of the pregnancy and the murder was to hide that fact? Thing is, over time your information tends to get better. Hi there, have just come across your work and am interested in joining the private group. Who is Skip that you think "he is traveling to Delphi to answer questions, sort fact from fiction and definitively disprove the countless false claims and bad information that has spread about this case"?? We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower, even much lower. You might consider joining us in our private group. But that would mean that Becky Patty would have to say that she called the wife. The 2017 murder of Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, became notorious after investigators released chilling footage the girls recorded of a man following and approaching them across the Manon High Bridge. Im sure its very interesting to posit your wandering speculation about what if this or maybe something or possibly why, who or what, but at the end of the day, its writing words in the air with water vapor to be blown away with the next wind. I still have the pic. This is a rumor that a woman walking her dogs on the bridge at 12:30 PM on the day of the murders, a full hour before BG probably appeared on the trails at 1:30 PM, saw a man who looked like the Young BG sketch. There are many people who confuse him with PB in comments and videos. Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. Im also sure that its used as a tactic to convince the public that they were completely justified in making whatever decisions they felt required justification. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. I very much think that a lot of the things that have puzzled me are now easily explained by Skip Jansen and Faceman's theory. It could explain why there was such a drastic image change of BG from first sketch to second one. Young girls menstrual cycles can be so messed up until possibly a few years later. Skip, thanks for responding to my question. If I happened to be out that day lets say partying or doing some stuff that maybe I shouldnt have been doing, and I witnessed something and had information Im telling you right now, I would think twice, then I would think two more times before I would even consider coming forward because I would be scared shitless that LE would throw my ass in jail for something completely unrelated just like they did to RL. Thanks Dee. Could be to cover their own asses. Familiarity with crime location: Extreme. Consequently, the accuracy of our statements should go up a lot too. RL couldnt have done it because he was violating the terms of his probation and was caught on camera drinking in a pizza parlor. So, DP could be deposed. The voice was a good match, the clothes looked familiar, and the walk was dead on. Abby was the one that had the boyfriend. Please consider giving this video the thumbs up watch one of my other videos!Join Me Behind The Crime Door..Where nothing is ever as it seems! Keep in mind that we are not claiming that anything listed below as Unverified is true, although some it has a good chance of being true. true crime garage stitcher true crime garage stitcher. I guess he cant make up his mind. Do you think an LE source might be talking to one of them or perhaps someone who knows one of them? The crime scene photos have been widely trashed as paraedolia. I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. is that creepy guy still following us?. *******If you have information on this case or know who Bridge Guy is, or have had interaction with the anthony_shots profile please contact law enforcement. However, I do not know how to contact you Sir. to find the killer or team of killers. I believe Mr. X is the guy. We now know a lot of things about the main suspect, including the name, age, height, weight, marital status, possible offspring, address, names of wife and children, and history of his life. Hence, none of his DNA from the forest around the girls is usable. The sigs are from the FBI and a court official. Theyre swarming all over this crime scene, and the killer is standing right here under their noses in the midst of the chaos for hours, and these coptards cant figure this out. We think he likes to fool and troll LE. So hes a murderer. The Hanish & Bowen case have revealed this for them (thus the new direction & young BG sketch & ditching of old BG sketch in 2019 a month after Hanish)I bet Hanish was catfished using that Anthony_Shots account toohe mustve been told or overheard info about the Delphi murders & therefore removedBowen removed for either the same thing or fact she knew the truth behind Hanish murder (b/c I definitely am not buying that Kirts is bisexual & choked him out during a weird sexcapade, gimme a break). Well, guess what? What I should have asked is just what if anything has Ron Logan said about the photo and left out if the guy on the bridge (BG) was a friend of Ron Logans because obviously if he was a friend we would now know who BG is. Yes I thought the suspect had been recorded walking on the raailroad tracks on one of the girls phones. Thats technically true but in all my years of playing the part of a PIO and putting out press releases, Ive never intentionally told a lie. The change in sketches, the age range, much of what has been said by LE etc. This source close to the retired detective will be referred to as an LE source close to the investigation. The main suspects DNA is found in the forest around the crime scene. Lilly CEO outlines insulin price cap plan, Boone County Sheriffs Office preparing for upcoming changes, Jalen Carter, Georgia star lineman,faces charges in fatal crash, Why your favorite blockbuster probably wont win best picture at the Oscars. She was found in an ivory/white dress. His brother looks very much like him (for example! Then there is always the question of his occupation. Fondled similarly to Libby. There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. Unfortunately, its not free. Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. They believe that when fresh LE eyes looked at the case in 2018 (I think they said GBI) this is what shifted the investigation to look back at him and precipitated the 2019 press conference where LE corrected paths, clarified the correct sketch, and spoke directly to BG/the killer. Skip and I will discuss where the second sketch may have come from. The last thing they need is this motley crew invading their town. The rumor that there was a spent cartridge at the scene is therefore confirmed. . I'll be more than happy to provide you with any info you need privately. That can only mean one thing. @ Skip, Paul, I know exactly what videos you are talking about on YouTube. Im not stupid. People are saying that we have a copy of the gag order that was issued on the towing of the truck at the CPS building. If DP sues Skip and/or TCG for defamation, that will result in near certainty about his involvement. BG was dressed in clothes similar to what Ron wore, and he took the girls to Rons land and killed them there. Dont pay any attention to that.. Actually, Jack, the families do not know at all. Delphi Girls Murdered Bail hearing set for suspect in Delphi murders Richard Allen's bail hearing has been set for Thursday, June 15 at 8:30 a.m. in Carroll County. Chadwell is accused of attempted murder, kidnapping and child molesting in Lafayette. Is there any way on Earth that BG could look like the young man in that sketch or even an 18-40 year old? The knife in the log was located near the girls right shoulder. They have thought they had the right guy several times in the Zodiac case, but all of the suspects fell through. We think people need to stop talking about DNA. Obwohl das organisierte Verbrecherthum" Footnote 2 bereits 1877 bei der Beratung zur Strafprozessordnung Erwhnung fand und die sogenannten Ringvereine ber mehrere Jahrzehnte fester Bestandteil der Gesellschaft waren, die nach heutigem Verstndnis Kriterien Organisierter Kriminalitt erfllen, setzte der Diskurs ber derartige Zusammenschlsse erst in den 1970er-Jahren in . Here is the link, https://youtu.be/_WXlt_xXD1U. The girl could well have been his high school freshman girlfriend. Good job though, because you confirm much of what Ive seen. Is he into numerology? How many journalists do you know who actually went to J-school and have J-degrees? !https://www.buymeacoffee.com/KristinTPlease consider joining this channel : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxxGSubscribe: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxxGSources:The Transcript of KAK interrogation with PoliceReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/LibbyandAbby/Disclaimer: All Behind The Crime Door content is for adults only and may contain themes that some individuals find triggering, offensive or disturbing.The intent is not to disrespect viewers or any individuals herein. He is one of the first and only witnesses in this case!!. So I would definitely hang the jury and let Mr. X walk, and in all probability, BG would be free to walk the streets again. Better to let your officers go home for a few hours so theyd be ready for work the next morning. Easy, they were lying! The other person involved that is kin to this POI. See, Im not like how they say at all, am I? We believe that the running away and months of therapy were also staged. In other words, they were faked. The catfishing situation is not what we think. *******If you have information on this case or know who Bridge Guy is, or have had interaction with the anthony_shots profile please contact law enforcement. Twice they were wrong. And if it was 43 seconds, it would be on Libbys phone! Ron Logan: Enough already. Is there a place on your site where you can pay/register? He's done that on this post too, wonder if he'll be banned from here as well. What are they doing to move this forward? Now he says he never saw BG at all. He killed a woman. The problem with this is that a searcher claims he searched the area where the girls were found the night of 2-13 and not only were the girls not there but none of the props were there either. Mr. Xs wife, his daughter, and Becky Patty are now putting out a story that Mr. X never lost his keys in the first place. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. In fact just based on what I have going on, researching this case is the absolute last thing I should be doing, but its drawing me in, and I cant help it. I never knew what evidence anyone had against this guy except, He kills chicks! Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. I think that the, "Down the hill," portion is distorted and that's why it sounds like an older man. Faked to make it look like he could not possibly have committed the crime because he was more devastated than anyone else. They even try to cure effeminate gay men and let them back in the churches as long as they say theyre cured of homosexuality. I agree I hope CN and this new guy do sue you. Two young girls disappear off of an extraordinarily dangerous bridge in the middle of the day when they had plans to be picked up at a specific time? So that means he killed these girls because theyre chicks too! Doesnt sound like a logical progression of thought to me. and our Twice in the the Evansdale Murders, LE thought they were certain that they had the right man. There is a main suspect who has been the main suspect for a very long time. Ive looked this man over and I cant think of anyone less likely to commit this crime. Im from the UK too and once a crowd beat up a Paediatrician because they mistakenly thought it meant he was a paedophile. If the sketch depicting an older suspect truly came from DP attempting to misdirect the investigation, it's very interesting that it bears such a strong resemblance to his father. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. Logan identifying him also speaks volumes considering how close they were all Kirts life, But Ed Bounds makes a really terrific point about why Logan was allowed to get out of jail & do his time at homeBasically saying thats incredibly rare but for the reason even more rare (horses need a better attendee? This blood will probably will not come out with the wash. This may extend to age 15. Within a ditch along a country road on her way home from school shortly after her murder. It seems clear to me a crime of opportunity for Skip Jansen Suspecr (BG? ) Mr. X was a senior in high school at the time. There would have to be some sort of connection to Mr. X for me to suspect him, and I dont see any as of yet other than odd behavior in searching for the girls. Number 5 was told to JM, an excellent local sleuth, and then to us by an Indiana detective who works in Narcotics based on crime scene photos he had seen. Precisely how they were killed has never been revealed by police. Idle speculation at its finest. This implies that the girls were returned to the scene later. And he never meets anyone for any reason. I also believe 1) that all of the dolls found there were not put there after the crime but that this was an area that the perpetrator visited often to perform some kind of sadistic acts using the dolls, 2) that he was at that site when he perhaps saw and/or used binoculars to spot the girls on the bridge, 3)went to the bridge and then took the girls to his sadistic-acts place to perform those acts on live persons. Best of all, much of our information is via solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. I know some people are upset for this style of episodes and so be it. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. Thats all you can do is refine the theories you have and check stuff off your list with the little info we have been given. They take hikers and bikers past architectural gems. The police chief says he is 99% sure that the main suspect, who is named, committed the crimes. The end goal here is justice for Abby and Libby. No, POI'S will be discussed tonight. There is a rumor of a falling out between the two men at some time before the crime. Makes no sense at all. No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest. Keep sleuthing, youre on point to what I see. I dont know if its in a garage, or the shed, perhaps? Hello Jacqui. I don't think it was directly addressed in the episodes, but are you able to speculate on what degree of premeditation (if any) would your theory would have required on the part of your suspect? In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use.All opinions in this video are mine and mine alone. I know that many of the previous POIs looked like the second sketch, but if you apply the logic that this was DP lying about who he saw, then that makes sense that only DP resembles the second sketch and the first was a red herring. I also believe there are other factors at play here possibly being protected and I dont think LE wants the truth of what happened to Abby and Libby to come out for whatever reason. The two men may have been working at the Tyson plant in Logansport, Indiana and may have been shipped to the sister Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa, where they were put up temporarily in motels for months at a time. The crime was committed in February 13 or 2/13. They say they want to prevent false confessions. Im nothing at all like how they describe me. Only thing I can come up with if we go with the rumors is that he draped them with the sheet that had the smiley face on it perhaps? These are simply unverified rumors. But they used experts to clean it up with fancy software and groups of experts got together to try to figure out what was being said. They told us that Kegan Kline was not involved. My background is nowhere near close to any qualifications for this. Of course, we empathize with their losses, but sympathy wears thin when someone is screaming in your face. Girls in the pedohebephilic age range (8-14 years old) were brazenly abducted two at once from trails in busy parks in rural Midwestern towns in the middle of daytime with many people around. In the Delphi Murders: 2/13: The Delphi Murders were committed on February 13, 2017. He was right in the middle of all the police and media, and no one suspected him. You came over here after sitting over of that hate Reddit, LibbyandAbby where youve been hating on me. Eventually the evidence I uncovered kept coming back to DP being the POI rather than him covering for someone. Homeless for a period in the 2000s, where he resided at a homeless shelter. He could have gone home, but for some reason he stayed with his truck. Amazing work! Hes a straight man with a wife, but maybe hes wimpy like a lot of straight men are. Please do not contact people you are suspicious of or attempt to harass, threaten or intimidate anyone. That most likely wouldn't happen without resources like this constantly keeping attention on cases. In addition, note that he abducted two girls on the 13th, 2-13. Important residence periods: Moved to Evansdale, Iowa in 2011-2012 to work at a slaughterhouse possibly aligned with Tyson Foods there. This person is externalizing their pain into rage and projecting it outwards at the world. Mr. X is a very close friend of Mr. M. Mr. M was a 20 year old man who impregnated one of the girls. Big KAK getting hungry and Dad is no longer speaking to him. He prefers whiskey, its his drink of choice and hes off without it. Theyre generally unusable. Would love to join the private group. I am a retired Detective Chief previously responsible for the Criminal Investigation Department and all of the 80 plus detectives within as well as a senior investigative officer with experience of leading murder enquiries. Notice that BG committed his crime with large knives or hatchets, his preferred weapon. Henceforth, he will be known as LE Source A. Skip- in one of the episodes you dropped DP brothers name Q A quick search shows that he was arrested and faces charges of child moderation charges (at least someone named QP from Delphi). But answer me this. Enough is enough. He had his keys with him, so why didnt he move his truck when they asked him to instead of lying and saying he couldnt because he had lost his keys? He posted a photo on Facebook around three weeks to a month after the murders. Apparently claimed that he saw Mr. X in another town around the time of the murders. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ, Add Iran to That Sino-Russian Alliance While You Are at It, More Crazy (Obsessive and Conspiratorial) Antisemitism, This Is Almost Certainly the Single Most Inexplicable Series of Geopolitical Blunders in Recorded History, The Rules-Based Order the US Keeps Blabbing about, The Jewish Conspiracy To Subject Humankind. No one knows if Mr. X is guilty or not. Same spelling as well. Or wet sneaker. Of course, we know now that they were killed but as far as LE was concerned, that very night, those girls were alive and may have been in desperate need of assistance. BG is a 50 year old man and the three other men are younger, age 17-26. Let us know if you want to join the private sleuthing site where we can talk about this stuff in much greater detail than we do out here. I apologize for all of the questions. What did Ron Logan have to say about the BG photo? It is an educational conversation about the current facts and opinion theories discussed in this investigation. You dont have to join. Oh, one more thing. Shout out to anyone else who feels the same. How bout taking it to heed, everyone? Resident of Delphi in 1984-85 at minimum. DELPHI MURDERS Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. So far, Indiana State Police has not publicly connected Kline with the girls deaths, but investigators have talked about the Delphi case in both of their news releases about Kline and the social media account. Its a dead end. Mr. X not only discovered the bodies, but he ran away in terror afterwards. Could it that the killers were middle aged men, DP and not sure yet, maybe FSG but both dressed exact same so people would be confused? As a friendly reminder, I do the BEST research I possibly can before posting every single one of my videos. The Delphi murders are among the most famous murders in the United States, and the texts are now circulating on the Internet. In general, the less said about the other aspects of his life the better, and they have no relationship to this case anyway. BG made a deep cut to the throat of one victim, probably with a hatchet, that resembles the deep cuts made to the throats of pigs at some slaughterhouses. Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. They are looking for exactly 43 seconds of audio that BG recorded. Same spelling as well. He will be embraced by those that matter but I can only hope that those who need to get stuff off their chest reach out to him because he is there to bring those two girls justice and if I was BG, I would be definitely be scared. I find it odd that he initially said it was his girlfriend then changed it to another female. I would think a crime like this would occur and the perpetrator would be gone. Breathe so we can comment in between paragraphs pleaser. Instead, people attacked /u/SkipJanson about going to Delphi when so many others like BitterBeatPoet were glorified for doing so and posted all over without issue. I do not want to see this man or his family harassed in any way. Would you please email me? I think LE has known since around the time they had the 2019 press conference that DP is the guy. The rumor is that his alibi is a Delphi police officer, Nate Allen, who committed suicide in December. A pair of binoculars. I understand that all of my information may not be correct. Also, if I look at a map showing where the girls were dropped off, seems there is a pretty long trail from that spot onto the railroad bridge. I found your article very interesting and thought provoking. 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